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COM:Paying public domain and hosting of non-commercial files

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Relevant Resources:

Paying public domain is a copyright regime where copies, presentations or performances of a work that has entered the public domain are still subject to royalties, which are payable to the state or to an authors' association
It may apply only to certain types of work, such as folklore or traditional cultural expressions, and typically is restricted to commercial use.

The same page states:

When a work is in the public domain, the existence of a paying public domain regime may be seen as a "non-copyright restriction" which does not prevent the work from being uploaded to Commons

Now the problem is that, I think the last statement goes directly against COM:L and COM:SCOPE. I do recognize that COM:PPD is an essay; it contains the advice and/or opinions of one or more Commons contributors. It is not a Commons policy or guideline, and editors are not obliged to follow it.

From what I understand from :

  • Copyright of works under paying public domain has expired.
  • So, [I think] the work is not protected by copyright.
  • You do not need permission to exploit the work however you like including commercial exploitation.
  • You can use the work freely non-commercially.
  • But you have to give royalty to the government or an applicable body

Per both COM:SCOPE and COM:L, files needs to be commercially exploitable in order to be hosted on commons. That's why we do not support CC-NC licenses. The statement in COM:PPD seems to be going directly against the project scope and I think paying public domain works do not meet the definition of Free Cultural Works.

My proposal:

Per wikiBlame [1] the text was added by @Aymatth2: [2]. So pinging him.

Also pinging @JWilz12345: and @Jmabel:  ; sorry for the ping. Tausheef Hassan Auntu ✉Talk? 16:07, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Strong oppose This would mean deleting all photos of cultural heritage works in Italy, from the Colosseum to the Pisa Tower. I don't agree with it: these are all country-specific regulations, but on Wikimedia Commons the really important thing remains the US law. And according to the US law all these non copyright restrictions are not valid (in fact, the Italian one is not valid even inside other EU-countries) Friniate (talk) 16:34, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
By the way, this would also mean that we'd have to delete a lot of photos for which we have an authorization valid only for Wikimedia Commons. So nothing would be safe, even photos with VRT-licenses would have to go. Basically we could close Wikimedia Commons at that point. Friniate (talk) 16:39, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
By the way, Commons:Non-copyright restrictions is an official guideline, so you'd have to modify also that one. Friniate (talk) 16:45, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
PPD is very specific things, not applicable to Commons; commercial companies know as it works anyway. Evelino Ucelo (talk) 16:57, 8 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
PPD is more like a tax, so  Strong oppose. Evelino Ucelo (talk) 15:40, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately, I don't quite understand. But, to put it simply, the proposal is to shut down Wikimedia Commons in Italy, right? Fabrizio Garrisi (talk) 19:35, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Fabrizio Garrisi It would still be possible to take photos of mountains, rivers, etc, but otherwise basically yes... It'd mean that we should delete the photos of every building/painting/sculpture/etc that is present in this website. Friniate (talk) 19:40, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
So I got it right. Okay, I'll find another hobby. Fabrizio Garrisi (talk) 19:54, 9 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The purpose of the proposal is not really clear to me. What is the goal of accepting COM:PPD as guideline? Are there any court rulings that say that there are legit instances where one has to pay royalties for works that are no longer protected by copyright? Or why exactly should Commons care about PPD? Currently, PPD sounds to me like some borderline Copyfraud, like what Getty Images is doing where they demand payments for works that are actually free. Nakonana (talk) 15:27, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
In Italy there was at least one court ruling saying that (see here), but I think that what matters the most is that these restrictions are valid only in one single country. So there wouldn't be any reason to delete all photos of the Colosseum on Commons because in every country of the world except Italy you can freely use those images also for commercial purposes. Otherwise we'd also have to delete all images of swastikas or communist symbols because in some countries you can use them only for scholarly purposes, I think that it doesn't make any sense. Friniate (talk) 15:50, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Even in Italy photos of Colosseum may be used freely in sense "without permission", although with paying a fee, but in case of noncommercial license, or noncommercial exception of panorama, commercial use wouldn't be possible at all (because copyright holder can refuse to license a work). Evelino Ucelo (talk) 16:10, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Evelino Ucelo That's right, thank you for explaining better the issue. Friniate (talk) 16:17, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
BTW I was wrong about natural objects being fine: even minerals shown in Italian museums wouldn't be safe. Along of course with 2 million artistic objects, 400.000 archeological finds, 230.000 photographs, 100.000 buildings, 40.000 coins, 70.000 anthropological traditions (!), 17.000 technological objects, 2000 musical instruments... Friniate (talk) 16:26, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Correction: prior authorisation is necessary in Italy, but refusal in authorisation is possible only under specific reasons (in conrast, copyright holder can refuse in the license under any reason). In some other countries with PPD, prior authorisation not exists and mere declaration is required. But both requirements isn't copyright anyway. Evelino Ucelo (talk) 12:13, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. COM:NCR is the relevant guideline. It explains why Wikipedia allows almost all public domain works, regardless of any non-copyright restrictions that may be imposed by individual countries. In the case of PPD works, typically a fee is required for commercial use in the country of origin. It can be freely used for personal or educational purposes, and can be freely used in all other countries. Wikimedia allows upload, and assumes a user making commercial use in the country of origin follows the law and pays the fee. That is a long-established policy. There is no reason to dispute it. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:37, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
     Strong oppose aswell GioviPen GP msg 16:13, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment: There's more to this from a structural point of view, and I don't think we can state a general rule. Right now, I don't see much in terms of references to specific law. Some potential issues that may differ from place to place include whether it is a copyright restriction or a non-copyright restriction (does the country include it in what they consider copyright law, or in another body of law like taxation?); whether the reuse is itself prohibited by failure to pay (it is conceivable that rescission of permission is not a remedy or consequence for failure to pay—maybe you just accrue tax debt); whether the statute is operative given other treaties and subsequent law (some of these are potentially archaic); whether the use on Commons itself is permitted (for instance, it could count as a foreign use, or as a noncommercial use—and thus it might only affect reusers subject to that specific country's jurisdiction); whether it is transitive to derivatives (does it affect an ancient folkloric statue, and a modern picture of that statue equally?); and whether there are weird side agreements (like Italy's Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 in Italy/MiBAC—it's not wholly clear to me to what extent downstream reusers are beneficiaries of the agreement, or for that matter whether the agency has the legal authority to make such an agreement). TheFeds 05:21, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    "does the country include it in what they consider copyright law, or in another body of law like taxation?" — PPD isn't copyright, even if relevant provision are included in copyright law Evelino Ucelo (talk) 07:36, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
 Comment it's not only the Italian case that involves here. Dozens of African laws also have such domaine public payant clauses. Perhaps soon we will be the next, considering the infamous cases of several content creators, both Pinoy and foreign, exploiting the cultural heritage of the Philippines (example case, w:en:Whang-od Academy).
The most curious instance of the existing domaine public payant rules is that of Guinea. See COM:Guinea#Public domain works and expressions of cultural heritage: not free. I created {{Guinean-heritage-disclaimer}}, considering that their rule specifically targets all foreigners, because only locals (Guinean citizens) can freely use the derivative works of the Guinean heritage. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 10:32, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
See also Category:Guinean-heritage-disclaimer, for images tagged with this non-copyright template. Currently, all of the images there were taken during the following contests: COM:Wiki Loves Africa 2022, COM:Wiki Loves Folklore 2023, and COM:Wiki Loves Folklore 2024. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 10:37, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Can someone remove these files for Commons?

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Hello, I had posted these two files when I first started editing Wikipedia like months ago:

The main problem is that one is from the National Portrait Gallery in London and downloaded it under the Creative Commons part of the download and did not pay for the license and the typical license for that is CC BY-NC-ND 3.0

As for the other one, I did get permission, yes, but the website said that the file is under CC BY-NC-SA 2.0FR

Can someone remove my files for Commons? DoNothingEveryday (talk) 11:28, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Why should the files be removed? all are PD-Old, because of how ancient they are. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 12:03, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The websites that I got the files from didn't license them under what's acceptable by Wikipedia standards. The Ayrton one I got from the Natural History of London and downloaded under CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 (I didn't pay for the license) while the Johnson one I got from Geneanet, which, in Geneanet's Terms and Conditions: states that:
"Genealogical data remains fully the property of the members who publish it on Geneanet. With the exception of the indexations of images carried out on the Site which remain Geneanet property.
The filing of genealogical data under the Creative Commons license ‘CC BY-NC-SA 2.0FR’ (http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/fr/) does not alter its ownership but does allow the reuse of this data by Geneanet and all Geneanet members."
(Genealogical Data means all personal or other data voluntarily provided or entered in a family tree)
I'm assuming that these files that I submitted to Commons violates the Terms and Conditions of both of these websites. DoNothingEveryday (talk) 12:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Unless I'm missing something, I only see two pictures in those links. Are those pictures are 150 and 100 years old. Those are in Public Domain, it doesn't matter what the original wbesite says. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 12:44, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Really? I thought the files I submitted violates copyright terms of both websites since they're both published under those websites. Yes, both of them are in the public domain, the Ayrton was published c. 1873 and the Johnson one was photographed in 1925. I thought that the pictures that are in public domain but in websites that have claimed to hold copyright for them violates what's acceptable in Wikipedia.
These are from the sites directly:
https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/use-this-image/?mkey=mw157456 (For the Ayrton one) (See Creative Commons portion)
https://en.geneanet.org/legal/cgu/#MemberData (For the Johnson one) DoNothingEveryday (talk) 12:51, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The older one is for sure PD. The second one, if it's really an anonymous (or unknown author work), then it has been PD for 31 years now. If it can unmistakenly be proved the author was the wife, then it's +70 years after her death. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 12:55, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Alright, thanks for the rightful checking of my files. Although, I don't get how are these files are in the PD and are acceptable to be submitted in WikiCommons even though the websites that hold those files licensed them that are not such. Can you enlighten me on how these works? Can I publish copyrighted works by other websites if the photograph is old enough? Is there a guide for this? Thanks in advanced DoNothingEveryday (talk) 13:03, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Check Help:Public domain and Commons:PD files TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 13:47, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@DoNothingEveryday: you may find en:Copyfraud an interesting read. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 14:13, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello, thanks! I thought I violate copyright laws. Thank you so much for the read DoNothingEveryday (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Just making sure, after reading this article, does that mean I could borrow some images at the NPG website and say it's under Public Domain if the photograph really is eligible for public domain because of the date? (just as long as it's licensed correctly ofc) DoNothingEveryday (talk) 14:35, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yes, you definitively should do that. And if there was a mistake and the file was not PD, then it will be temporaly deleted until the PD date is reached.
Don't be afraid of being mistaken, everyone learned that way. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 15:06, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Alright! Thank you so much DoNothingEveryday (talk) 15:07, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@DoNothingEveryday: Things like en:Copyfraud (already pointed out above) and en:National Portrait Gallery and Wikimedia Foundation copyright dispute are probably reasons why these files are OK for Commons since copyright courts in the US and UK seem to have consistently ruled that the digitalization of a PD work is insufficient to create a new copyright for said work (or something along those lines). So, it's unlikely you or Commons will run into problems related to copyright law; individual users, though, need to be careful when it comes to contract law because any agreement they might enter into with an organization (e.g., the NPG) is between them and said organization; an agreement an individual might enter to procur an image license has nothing to do with Commons and is treated (I believe) for the most part as a COM:NCR. In cases like this, it's contract law where individuals seem to run into problems (if they ever do); so, you might want to keep this in mind moving forward. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:40, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
 Comment I fixed the license of the first file. Yann (talk) 12:50, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It seems as if the possible photographer of the second file is Helena Modjeska Chase, who died in 1986. So, if a family photo that was not published before 2003, which is not unlikely given the circumstances, it seems to be copyrighted in the US whether treated as her work or as an anonymous work. Felix QW (talk) 17:12, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Is Dutch TV Public Domain?

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Surfing the net I found PD-NetherlandsGov Template in a local Wikipedia. It States:

This is regulated in Article 15b of the Copyright Act of 1912. This implies that all programmes of the Netherlands Public Broadcasting service (they are public authorities just like the Silicose Oud-mijnwerkers foundation, ABRS 30 November 1995, JB 1995/337) are not copyright protected.

However, Commons template PD-DutchGov quotes a different article (11 vs. 15) and does not mention TV.

What can (and what can't) I do with Dutch Public Broadcasting television's news, for instance? TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 12:01, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

FWIW the archived URL. Bedivere (talk) 01:40, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Article 11 states that "No copyright subsists in laws, decrees or ordinances issued by public authorities, or in judicial or administrative decisions." The Nederlandse Publieke Omroep is indeed a public company but that does not necessarily mean the article applies. Bedivere (talk) 01:44, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
BTW the malayalam template was taken from the now deleted English Wikipedia one deleted in 2017 but for unrelated reasons. Bedivere (talk) 02:40, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
What can (and what can't) I do with Dutch Public Broadcasting television's news, for instance?
TaronjaSatsuma, nothing. It's not public domain. I had uploaded a one or two minute clip from a popular science show to YouTube and the public broadcaster took it down. They didn't monetize it (which would have been smarter!), they took it down. Didn't hurt them financially in any way, they didn't have that clip on their own channels, they took it down simply because they could. Their online streaming platform is infested with DRM. When they enabled their shitty DRM (it was easy to download episodes before that), they actually took the effort to insert a clip that stream ripping software would download instead. It roughly said "na-na na-na boo-boo, we outsmarted you, don't download our content!" It was childish.
The Dutch public broadcaster is complex by the way. It's not strictly one homogeneous organization like the BBC. It consists of a bunch of smaller organizations that are allotted time on the telly. Some of them publish some content on YouTube with a CC BY license. They also license content from third parties.
Vysotsky might know more. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 12:35, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the research. I recently discovered the interesting Dutch Public TV system, and at least is good to know something is CC, and something might be used.
Anyway, the claim "Dutch public TV is Public Domain" seems to be a thing. We could perhaps improve documentation with the explanation why it isn't. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 19:16, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It is only public domain if it is in-house produced as well and doesn't state to be rights reserved. But additionally, a lot of the public broadcasting is commissioned or licensed material. For modern TV and Radio that is sort of the standard honestly. The Beeld en Geluid institute (that often partners with Wikimedia NL and Commons) has the responsibility to archive and make that archive available to the public, but as can be witnessed from this page, indexing what the status of all of the rights are is a very complex process. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 14:50, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the info! I hope the status of the rights gets clear at least for some shows. TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 19:50, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Clothes with fancy textures

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File:Shopping time! (41186524250).jpg Whether such textures can be copyrighted? And if so, would it affect photos as above? Thanks in advance. Evelino Ucelo (talk) 15:31, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

  • Definitely not an issue in the U.S.; I'm not absolutely certain about Spain, though I am pretty certain that the strictest copyright laws in the world protecting clothing are in France, so if we can determine it would be OK there, then it should be in Spain. - Jmabel ! talk 02:01, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    I am talking not about fashion design (not a problem), but about printed pattern, which can be visual work. This particular inclusion potentially may be de minimis (and definitely may not be FoP), but I am unsure. Evelino Ucelo (talk) 12:45, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
    We do have COM:CLOTHES, but I'm also not certain where to draw the line.
    If the photo depicts someone wearing patterned clothes, I'd say that the design of the clothes is clearly De Minimis as it's just a byproduct but not the focus of the photo (which would be the depicted person usually).
    In cases like your given example it's a bit borderline as the clothes are the sole subject of the photo and that's where pattern design can become tricky copyright wise.
    However, in this particular case of yours I'd say it's De Minimis based on the argument that this is similar to a "general skyline view" of a city in a country that doesn't have Commons-compatible freedom of panorama: no item is the sole focus of the photo, it's just a general view of a shopping window display and therefore any singular item is de minimis. Nakonana (talk) 12:51, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Regencies and provinces of Indonesia

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Are Indonesian files such as the ones listed below free under {{PD-IDGov}}, {{PD-IDNoCopyright}}, or other circumstances?

Wracking ( talk / contribs / uploads ) 03:10, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Similar question for files like File:Poster Kampanye Mulia-Pas 2024.jpg being claimed as government works. — Wracking ( talk / contribs / uploads ) 03:15, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Wracking PD-IDGov is questionable at the very least. See discussion links under Template talk:PD-IDGov#References to recent discussions. The alleged supporting citations point to the provisions of the Article 43 of the Indonesian copyright law concerning free uses (exceptions or limitations to copyright), not public domain statement. This implies Indonesian government works remain protected, but can be freely used subject to Article 43, provisions a, b, and e. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 01:48, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
At the very least, PD-IDGov is not the correct template name and should have been {{Copyrighted free use-IDGov}} (similar to {{Copyrighted free use}} licensing tag), but as Mdaniels5757 points out, the three provisions must meet COM:Licensing for the tag to be valid. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 01:50, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

PD Template for US regarding NPG x76570

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Hello, I'm trying to publish this file to WikiCommons. I think it suits to be {{PD-UK-unknown}} since it:

  • From an unknown photographer; and
  • Made available to the public in 19 July 1939

Now, I don't know what to put in the Public Domain template regarding the US. Can someone help me regarding files like these? DoNothingEveryday (talk) 04:11, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

{{PD-US-1996}} if this photo was published without copyright registration (likely so, but not always). Evelino Ucelo (talk) 12:48, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Alright, thank you! DoNothingEveryday (talk) 12:50, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Evelino Ucelo: I don't follow your logic; here's how I see it. If it was published in 1939 in the UK, then in 1996 it would presumably still have been in copyright there (<70 years) and would have regained U.S. copyright under URAA. It would be protected through 2034. What is your basis to say it would have been out of copyright in the UK on 1 January 1996? (Also Pinging @DoNothingEveryday.) - Jmabel ! talk 03:35, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hello @Jmabel, I have already added the file into Commons here:
Should you wish to change what license this falls under I won't mind. Or if you just want to check the file. Cheers DoNothingEveryday (talk) 04:15, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Jmabel: you are right, this photo was under copyright on URAA date. Evelino Ucelo (talk) 08:01, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Yep. It was PD in the UK in 1990 (being created/published in 1939), but re-copyrighted by the EU directive in 1996 and also thus restored by the URAA. It re-entered the UK public domain in 2010, and will re-enter the US public domain in 2035. Carl Lindberg (talk) 15:33, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
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What is the copyright status of images like this, taken by an unknown German photographer and in this case ending up in the UK's National Archives? Nthep (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Nthep: it's possible that the UK govt seized both the physical photographs as well as the intellectual property thereto, similar to what the US did with the photos of Heinrich Hoffmann (see Template:PD-HHOFFMANN). Given that the Public Relations Office of the War Office (I'm pretty sure that's what PRO WO stands for) claims copyright, it may be public domain per {{PD-UKGov}}. Even so, the copyright claims would only apply in the UK and probably not in Germany (where anonymous photographs are protected from 70 years from publication, and there isn't evidence of publication) or the US (even if it was published between 1939-1945, the URAA extension would ensure protection until at least 2035). Out of precaution, I would not upload such photos. – Howardcorn33 (💬) 13:17, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
it may be public domain per PD-UKGov — per the text of the template, this PD rationale only applies to works that were created by the UK government. So, even if they seized all physical copies, they are still not the ones who created them. For this to be in the public domain, it would require a different PD tag than PD-UKGov. Nakonana (talk) 18:44, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Ah yes, that is important to consider. – Howardcorn33 (💬) 18:45, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It is my understanding that the date of publication is the date on which the photos were made available to the general public. Furthermore, it is my understanding is that in the United Kingdom, government papers are transferred to the National Archives and made available to the public after 30 years unless special rules apply to specific documents or sets of documents. In this case, one needs to check when the photos were first catalogued in the archives' index and whether any specific restictions applied. It might be worth noting that when William Shirer wrote en:The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, he (and anybody else) had access to documents that the US Government were returning to the West German Federal Government in the early 1950's, so maybe these photos were available to the public earlier than 1975 (30 years after the ned of WWII). Martinvl (talk) 21:14, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Publication also requires the legal right to distribute copies (if someone steals a work and disseminates copies without permission, that is not publication). If we pursue the theory that it was published by UK authorities, it seems essential that we be able to document what legal right they purported to exercise. Just like a regular uploader can't slap their own copyright notice on someone's work and place it on Commons, if there is no plausible reason the UK PRO WO was the creator, we ought to find out how (or whether) they came to possess the copyright. Failing that, we should attempt to establish the jurisdiction under which the photo was taken, identify its successor state, and apply that copyright law. We should then attempt to ascertain the author, and if reasonably unknowable, treat it as an anonymous work. TheFeds 19:12, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The UK government was definitely not the creator. The most likely is an unknown member of the German military (unless someone has records of the official photographers in POW camps). Nthep (talk) 11:07, 19 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Is "Our Movie Guide" and "Empire" really providing videos under the creative commons license?

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1) Our Movie Guide

They have videos on YouTube which are typically released under the "Creative Commons Attribution licence", like [3] and [4]. These are interviews they have with cast members of a movie. However, the video descriptions say "All rights, title and interest to the Materials, including the copyrights and trademarks therein, shall at all times be and remain with the studio and any other co-owner(s) of such copyrights and trademarks in the Materials." Am I able to take screenshots of these videos and upload them for the actors, under the license the video is under?

2) Empire Movies

They have trailers [5] and teaser trailers of Masters of the Universe released under this "Creative Commons Attribution licence". I am more sceptical of this one as it is the full-on trailer of the movie. Is this also fine to take images from of cast members? jolielover♥talk 08:54, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

It doesn't appear "Our Movie Guide" and "Empire" are the copyright holder of the videos you have linked. So, the Creative Commons license they have released the video under, are most likely invalid. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 09:20, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I agree for Empire, but why do you think OMG isn't the copyright holder? It seems like their interviews which they have uploaded to YouTube. jolielover♥talk 09:27, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
In their YouTube description, it states "All materials provided by EPK.TV", then it says the paragraph you mentioned above "All rights, title and interest to the Materials...shall at all times be and remain with the studio...". This indicates to be that "OurMovieGuide" is just simply reuploading these videos that are available at "EPK.TV", hence they are not the copyright holder. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 09:39, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I see, thanks for the explanation jolielover♥talk 09:48, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
What about Empire though? I did some digging and reliable sources (see peer-reviewed paper) report that they are a legitimate film distributor. I'm not an expert on the intricacies of copyright law so I don't know exactly how this affects copyright status (especially considering they're not the distributor in the United States) but it's worth bringing up. Maltazarian (talk) 10:24, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It is not enough to be a legitimate distributor of third-party content, Empire must actually own the copyright in the first place in order to permit further re-usage. The production companies who own the copyright to eg. Masters of the Universe may permit Empire to publish promotional materials on their YouTube channel, but Empire themselves do not have the right to license the content for external use. – Howardcorn33 (💬) 13:28, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Image from the Indian Air Force

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hey everyone I've been intrested in uploading this photograph to Wikipedia, for an Article I'm currently drafting.


Image source -> https://indianairforce.nic.in/history-timelie 4-RAZOR 01 (talk) 10:55, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

IAF terms are found here https://indianairforce.nic.in/terms-and-conditions
Unlike the Indian Army or Navy, I've not been able to find an templated for the Air force. So I been thinking of using GODL-India. Will it create any issues? 4-RAZOR 01 (talk) 10:56, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Neither of those links works for me. Maybe not accessible from the U.S.? - Jmabel ! talk 23:39, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
There exact lines from the site are
"Material featured on this website may be reproduced free of charge. However, the material has to be reproduced accurately and not to be used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context. Wherever the material is being published or issued to others, the source must be prominently acknowledged. However, the permission to reproduce this material shall not extend to any material which is identified as being copyright of a third party. In case of doubt about the veracity and ownership of site-material, intended to be used, a prior permission / authorization of IAF or the concerned department of IAF or the third-party copyright holder must be obtained."
I am in doubht about this, and does this allow me to use GODL-India 4-RAZOR 01 (talk) 03:27, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
"not to be used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context" is certainly an acceptable non-copyright restriction, and requiring acknowledgement of source is fine. I have no idea whether GODL-India can be used, but these sound to me like acceptable terms. I hope someone with more knowledge of Indian copyright law in particular will weigh in. - Jmabel ! talk 19:47, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I could only find a very old discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mig-21bis.JPG, but I am sure this has been discussed since as well. The issue seems to be less the "not to be used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context" and more the "has to be reproduced accurately", which may be construed as disallowing derivative works. Felix QW (talk) 06:55, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Felix QWso, no issues in direct upload under godl-India right? I am working on a page with it s the infobox picture 4-RAZOR 01 (talk) 12:52, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

NYC Mayor video

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This video from the NYC Mayor's office ("LET'S GO KNICKS") is licensed as CC-BY, but it incorporates a lot of what look like preexisting elements like music, newscast audio, and photographs that might not be covered by the license. Which parts of this video can be safely uploaded under a free license? Qzekrom (talk) 08:25, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I agree with you that the video contains a lot of likely unfree elements, so the CC license should only apply to portions of the video that are most likely taken by the Mayor's office. This means the video would need a lot of editing to remove those elements, in order for it to be compatible with Commons.
Alternatively, you may just want to upload selective screenshots of the free portions of the videos. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 12:57, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The historical photos are from 1984-ish, so {{PD-US-1978-89}} might apply. But I can also remove the audio and cut out the section with the photos. Qzekrom (talk) 16:12, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Alternatively, if the photos were taken by the NYC Mayor's office, then they are included under the license. Qzekrom (talk) 16:29, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Most of the old photos shown in the video are sourced from the New York City Municipal Archives, which can be seen here. However, their page description doesn't indicate whether they are in public domain. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 16:42, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Good find! I've uploaded the video here without the audio - File:Let's Go Knicks - NYC Mayor's Office (edited).webm - and noted the de minimis elements.
I could also send an email to the Mayor's Office asking about the source materials, or possibly even submit a FOIL request since the video is published by the city government.
Also, for what it's worth, the third-party materials in the video (e.g. stock music) may also be covered by the CC license if the City has a sublicensable right to use them. But I'd assume otherwise unless we see what's in the contracts governing them (which could also be discovered in a FOIL request). Qzekrom (talk) 19:10, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Usergruppe Heraldikbamberg und deren Dateien

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Bei diesem "User" handelt es sich um eine Personengruppe, die vor einigen Jahren zahlreiche Fotos aus Bamberg eingestellt hat, Schwerpunkt Wappen. Problemː Die Autorenrechte können doch nicht der Gruppe, sondern nur dem jeweiligen Fotografen zugerechnet werden? Kann ein Kollektiv überhaupt als "User" auftreten und Bilder lizensieren? Ist die Teilnahme an der Gruppe als konkludentes Einverständndis anzusehen? GerritR (talk) 08:39, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Solange alle Bildrechte explizit bei ihnen liegen und sie sich als Gruppe einstimmig dafür entscheiden ihre Bilder auf Commons hochzuladen sehe ich darin kein Problem. Auch das nutzen eines einzigen Accounts als Gruppe ist erstmal nicht weiter problematisch. Es muss im Zweifelfall aber nachgewiesen werden können, das die jeweile Person, welche das Bild erstellte auch wirklich ihr Einverständnis gegeben hat. Pfannkuchenwaffel (talk) 02:50, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Stars and Stripes

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Is original content from the Stars and Stripes newspaper considered public domain as {{PD-USGov-military}}? According to the legal disclaimer on their website, they claim copyright for all content and it "may not be reproduced for any commercial purpose with out [sic] the express written consent of Stars and Stripes". – Howardcorn33 (💬) 09:05, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Honestly this is a mystery to me too. There was discussion about this on the ENWiki talk page for Stars and Stripes about a decade ago, but there was no consensus. My gut instinct is that original content from Stars and Stripes is public domain via its creation by federal employees as part of their job, but there are a few other quirky situations that this could be similar to (I'm thinking along the lines of the National Gallery of Art, whose employees technically work for the National Gallery board of trustees, not the government itself, so their work is not public domain; or Smithsonian Trust employees, who are not directly employed by the government and therefore their output is similarly not public domain). I did some quick digging just now and I can't find any substantive discussions about this.
Note also that the authorizing directive which created the modern Stars and Stripes uses the term "public domain" incorrectly to discuss news-gathering (their definition of "public domain" is really more oriented around security clearances and safety, meant to represent news and information that is publicly known or accessible, in contrast with news and information that only members of the military have access to). 19h00s (talk) 15:15, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I feel like it probably would be but as said above there could be some technicality. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:43, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

US publications with European translators

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Hi, I think these files may not be OK on Commons.

Opinions? Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:55, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

File:Relativity, the Special and General Theory, by Albert Einstein, 1920.pdf: The title page credits Robert William Lawson at the University of Sheffield, but the publisher is Henry Holt and Company of New York. The 1920 date means the US copyright has aged out, and I think that is the only copyright that matters for Commons. If it were simultaneously published in the UK, then the UK copyright may last through 2030. Glrx (talk) 19:40, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
For simultaneous publication, we can always choose which of those countries we consider the place of publication. We wouldn't need to concern ourselves with the UK at all. - Jmabel ! talk 19:50, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
s:File:Investigations on the theory of the Brownian Movement, by Albert Einstein, uc1 b4212174.pdf is a 1956 Dover copy of a 1926 translation. A. D. Cowper was the translator. Not sure what to say about notes by R. Fürth (notes added to the original and also translated by Cowper?). Dover got permission from Methuen and Company, Ltd., which is a British publisher. Cowper and Fürth may still have PMA 70 rights. Glrx (talk) 20:00, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
R. Fürth is probably Reinhold Furth (20 October 1893 – 17 July 1979) (Reinhold Furth (Q24718719)). PMA 70 would be good through 2049.Glrx (talk) 22:08, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Alred Denys Cowper. Possibly Alfred Denys Cowper (Q76127414) (no data). Possibly https://canadiangreatwarproject.com/person.php?pid=774898 b 1884-02-04. Glrx (talk) 22:22, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

File:MLP clop fanart of a pony version of Wikipedia.png - Wikimedia Logos and Visual Identity Guidelines

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May include content of a graphic, violent, or sexual nature.

I was reviewing a DYK at the English Wikipedia, and the image File:MLP clop fanart of a pony version of Wikipedia.png (NSFW) was included with the nomination. The fan art seems to have been given a free license. However, I was wondering if the obscured Wikipedia puzzle piece logo is acceptable under the Visual Identity Guidelines (15 and 16). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:11, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Comment en:Template:Did you know nominations/Clop (erotic fan art) (2nd nomination) — link to the DYK nomination. Issac I Navarro (talk) 17:21, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Washington State University Office of University Publications and Printing/WSU Press WSU Photographs

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Les photographies de ce site sont-elles libres de droit étant donné la phrase citée dans les conditions générales: "Access Restrictions This collection is open and available for research use" Cinokat (talk) 16:36, 16 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

All that says to me is that the photographs are available to be viewed. No indication at all of any right to reuse them. - Jmabel ! talk 21:56, 16 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Releasing inherited copyrighted photos into the public domain

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Hello all, I am somewhat new to all this so forgive me if this has an obvious answer. I have recently inherited photos that my descendants took in the 1920s and 1930s when they were living in Indonesia.The people who took the photos died between the 1940s and 1960s. As inheritor of the photos, is it possible for me to release them into the public domain? I assume the answer is probably no, as just saying your the inheritor is probably not enough evidence however I thought I would ask. Gogerr (talk) 13:24, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Gogerr: are you the sole heir, and can you demonstrate that should the need arise? If yes, then it's fully within your rights to deal with your inheritance the same way you can with any other propriety of yours (licensing, gifting, destroying, hiding away, etc.). We have {{Cc-by-sa-4.0-heirs}} for instance.
If you're not the sole heir, then the resulting group of heirs must unanimously agree to whatever you plan to do.
Last but not least: in most countries, works from people who, as of 2026, died in 1955 or earlier are basically in the public domain, barring exceptions like en:editio princeps.
There's a compendium about these and related copyright questions at COM:THIRD you might find helpful. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 13:34, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, your response is helpful. I will keep all that in mind. I am sole heir for a portion of the collection but not all. I have accurate records for when they died, so I will go ahead and publish the photos for the people who have died in 1955 or earlier. Thanks! ~~ Gogerr (talk) 13:49, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Just to cover all the bases, do you know whether you inherited a collection of photo prints, files, slides or negatives alone, or also the rights to use those photos? (It wouldn't be abnormal for that not to have been spelled out in detail anywhere, so you'd have to apply the facts and law specific to your situation.) TheFeds 05:17, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@TheFeds: at least in Western countries, an inheritance covers everything that the deceased possessed by default, material goods, but also immaterial ones, like IP rights. To deviate from that, a will with a different stipulation (to the effect of separating the actual material possession from the copyrights) would have to have been written, otherwise, there's no separation between material possession of records to holding the rights to it for the heir. And such a will can even become moot when the circumstances don't fit, e.g. with would-be heirs already dead, too. But there's nothing in the opening question that alludes to such problems. It looks like a pretty straightforward situation: a photographer dies, their heir gets physical images and IP rights on their works. There are apparently not even much shared inheritances coming into play. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 05:38, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
While that's fair enough (and they can address whether there's a will with further provisions), I was hoping to consider the scenario that multiple members of the family might have received copies of the same photos ("sole heir for a portion of the collection but not all" could imply one got the negatives, another got the album). Are you sure about whether it ought to be presumed that transfer of copies of the same work to multiple people creates multiple copyright interests unencumbered by one another? TheFeds 06:32, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'm German and I have only read a bit about our local laws, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt - (international) inheritance law is finicky. With that caveat...
As written before, I would expect that any bequeather of works is leaving hard copies and rights together by default, this doesn't get unbundled without a will. But if several people inherit together, forming a community of heirs, they have to jointly administer the bundle of work and rights; and jointly will usually mean unanimously, no one can decide on their own. This case arises for instance when there are several siblings. Joint heirship is also a prime candidate for the cause of works becoming en:orphan works, as it muddies the rights transfer chains. I just found en:Intestacy which may be something interesting to read; but that is likely leading too far away from the original question.
To sum up - Gogerr should be safe when they endeavour to upload works by relatives who died more than 70 years ago (that is what the threshold of 1955 above meant) and also when they are the sole heir to something. In other cases, when a join heirship is present, they could gather the consent of any other heir and proceed as well, if they deem if worth the effort. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 15:11, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

TOO in the United Kingdom for text-based graffiti

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File:GOC Walthamstow to Stratford 094 Graffiti (25001371599).jpg Whether such graffiti is covered by copyright? I am not sure about TOO in this case. Evelino Ucelo (talk) 13:05, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Do we actually have to provide evidence of publication for pre-1989 no notice works?

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Because I've seen multiple deletion requests close as keep due to it "probably" having been published, even when it is exceedingly unlikely that it was prior to 1989. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:41, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

"Probably" for something "exceedingly unlikely" is a problem, but that is a matter of facts, not policy. - Jmabel ! talk 19:54, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Each case is unique. If the person requesting the delete is out "dragon slaying" (See here for definition), then caution should be exercised. First of all, request to whoever posted the word "probably" to justify their statement and at the same time, check their posting record to ensure that they are likely to read your posting. Remember, the image might have been posted in 2010 and the person who posted it died in 2020. Put the request on the image Talk Page so that everybody can see it. There might be a good reason and it is not unknown for somebody to come back five years later and make the same request. If it is on the talk page, they will avoid making a fool of themselves.
On the other hand, if you have good reasdon to believe that the image was not published before 1989 AND IS STILL IN COPYRIGHT, you should post your rationale rather than just saying "I don't believe that". Martinvl (talk) 21:07, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
It is ridiculous that people can just assume that it was published then and not have to provide proof; how am I supposed to prove it wasn't when there is no proof of when it was published at all? PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:27, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
As Martinvl says, this always comes down to cases. There is no point to discussing this in the abstract. If there are particular images in question, let's focus on those, not on an impossible abstraction. - Jmabel ! talk 04:59, 19 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Jmabel For the one that bothers me most is File:David koresh.jpg. It was produced in 1987, but was not published then.
Mugshots were not usually published at the time, unless in a newspaper. I checked every newspaper article that covered Koresh pre-Waco (there weren't that many), and while there were photos of him printed, the mugshot never was until 1998 (and the places where it is included say it was first published in 1998!). Yet, it was kept at DR as "1978 and February 1989 no notice and no registration", but we have no evidence of where this was first published or if it was or without notice, despite no keep votes.
I could understand assuming if there was reasonable precedent, like say a poster in a series of a posters that were likely distributed, or something like that, but it happens with individual photos where we don't know that they were published at all.
So, can I just take any photo and assert that it was published and I get away with that? Really? Because that seems to be the consensus. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:21, 19 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@PARAKANYAA: As I'm sure you know, having participated in Commons:Deletion requests/File:David koresh.jpg, that is a really tricky one on several counts. Nearly all of the complexity is because it is a mugshot, so (at least on the basis of this example) this appears not to be nearly as general an issue as your initial remarks implied.
  1. I presume we can all agree that when the mugshot was taken, it became available for newspapers (or, really, anyone) to use, and that the McLennan County Sheriff's Office did not engage in the then-required formalities for a U.S. copyright. If making the mugshot available constituted publication (I personally have no opinion either way), the it is PD on the basis stated by Abzeronow when he closed the DR. His closure is terse, but this appears to have been his reasoning.
  2. It is possible that all mugshots in the U.S. are public domain. Certainly some people quite knowledgeable about copyright believe this to be the case; as far as I know, the matter has never reached a courtroom.
  3. Failing that, it is possible that Texas's own specific policy with respect to use of mugshots may be liberal enough to make them "free enough" for Commons, even if the counties hold copyrights. Again, I don't have a decided opinion, but I could imagine a reasonable case; as far as I can see, the only real question would be the degree to which they allow derivative works, which seems unclear to me.
In any case, I do want to address one other remark in the DR (not yours): The worst part about this is that other people think this image is public domain because we said it is. If that's the worst, then that's a good reminder that this is more a detail of Commons policy than anything with legal consequences. As far as I can tell, the only possible copyright-holder is the McLennan County Sheriff's Office; clearly, they have no interest in enforcing their copyright; so the consequences of mistakenly believing this is in the public domain are not much. Losing a bar bet? Being mildly embarrassed over a misstatement? Clearly not "facing legal consequences."
Jmabel ! talk 02:25, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
1. Why can we assume that the McLennan County Sheriff's Office did not engage in the then-required formalities for a U.S. copyright?
2. I believe this but Commons consensus comes down against it every time.
3. We have time and time again deleted mugshots from Texas, every single discussion we have had on this count comes down to not free.
It was kept due to formalities, so point 1, your other two points have nothing to do with this. "Clearly, they have no interest in enforcing their copyright", COM:PCP. So apparently the consensus is yes, anyone can assert that anything was published and it will be kept. What fun. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:29, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Jmabel essentially sums up why I closed it as I did. Mug shots were circulated, McLennan County Sheriff didn't bother to copyright it because it was not in their interest to, they wanted it publicly available. Pre-1989 mugshots are basically almost always public domain. Abzeronow (talk) 02:49, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
That's going to depend in part on the type of media. Something like a newspaper or a poster has almost certainly been published, since that was the purpose of creating the work. A photograph in isolation is more questionable, since it might have been part of a personal collection. Omphalographer (talk) 23:26, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I do agree that with a poster or a newspaper it is inherent. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:22, 19 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Reliefweb

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I read this page, which (I think) says that we can upload maps from Reliefweb to Commons. Does that mean that I can upload the map that is in this report? Thank you! Lova Falk (talk) 13:54, 19 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Copy/vio

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https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Yoruba_Oduduwa_People_Ethnic_Flag.svg&oldid=1234259804


https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Yoruba_Nation_OduduwaStar_Flag.png&oldid=901562739


this image seems to be copy/vio. Wmbata (talk) 20:57, 19 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Convenience links:
  1. This is complicated by the overwrite of the original flag at File:Yoruba Nation OduduwaStar Flag.png (which looks to me to have been below the threshold of originality) with a duplicate of File:Yoruba Oduduwa People Ethnic Flag.svg that is tangentially related to the original upload there.
  2. It's not obvious to me that these are copyvios, though they could be. Is there an original that you believe they infringe? Usually, much as with coats of arms, the basic design of a flag is not copyrightable, only a particular visual expression of it so, for example, if that particular representation of a golden head and laurel leaves is the artist's own creation (or is something in the public domain) these are presumably fine, but if they are an exact or near-exact copy of someone else's copyrighted rendering then they are a copyvio.
Jmabel ! talk 02:40, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Images from the Washington Department of Archaeology and Historic Preservation

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Im looking at the possibility of uploading images located from the Washington state Department of Archaeology and Historic Preservation, but there is not a license template that matched the need. If I am reading this policy statement correctly, with limited exceptions records/works of the Department of Archaeology and Historic Preservation are released as public records per the Washington State Public Records Act. As such the files are not subjectable to any use restrictions and free use in the public domain. Am I understanding the situation correctly? If so what template is the most appropriate ir is a new {{PD-WADAHP}} template in need of creation?--Kevmin § 00:47, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Kevmin: The only Washington State agency that routinely places its intellectual product in the public domain is the Office of the State Secretary of State.
Access to public records is not permission to republish them, let alone make derivative works. Read section "10. Copying of Records" on page 5 of the PDF you linked. It provides only a very limited right for anyone to copy these materials, nowhere near what Commons requires. - Jmabel ! talk 02:46, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, I'm wondering if I can upload the Logo of Ace Combat 8 from the official website: https://www.bandainamcoent.com/games/ace-combat-8. Since it only consists of simple geometric shapes it should be free of copyright (in both the US and Japan), but because it's from the official website of Bandai Namco I'm not quite sure if there's other restrictions that may apply here and would prevent an upload to Wikimedia Commons (except the trademark since there's already a template for that). Long story short, can I upload this with the right licenses or not? Pfannkuchenwaffel (talk) 00:51, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Pfannkuchenwaffel: is this just the text logo at upper left there? If so, no issue at all. {{PD-textlogo}}. - Jmabel ! talk 02:49, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I meant the Logo in the middle which says "Ace Combat 8: Wings of Theve". But judging by your answer it should be legal as well. Thanks! :) Pfannkuchenwaffel (talk) 02:53, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Pfannkuchenwaffel: yes. Just don't forget also to add {{Trademarked}}. - Jmabel ! talk 03:35, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Already uploaded it with the right templates including {{Trademarked}}. Thanks again. :) Pfannkuchenwaffel (talk) 03:38, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

File:FBISD Historical Marker.jpg

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I assked about File:FBISD Historical Marker.jpg here at VPC back once before in 2023, but that thread got archived with much being resolved. The file recently showed up on my watchlist due to a edit made by a bot; so, I figured I'd ask about again. While I'm sure the uploader took the photo itself, I'm not as sure as to whether the photographed marker (which appears to have been installed in 1991) can be covered by the same license due to COM:FOP US and COM:CB#Noticeboards and signs? Should the prose on the marker be treated as a copyright-protect work? -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:32, 20 June 2026 (UTC)Reply